ZEGEL TAPE NO. 4
Spring 1987
THE RECANT

Copyright © 1987 Jon Zegel
Redistribution rights granted for non-commercial purposes.
((It is a matter of public record that the following tape
was circulated coincident with a settlement that Zegel made with
the RTC in 1987, the terms of which are secret. Jon was unwilling
to discuss the terms of the settlement with me recently, but he
said I should put this note at the beginning of the transcript.))

Hello again,
this is Jon Zegel and it's the Spring of 1987, and this is the
long-awaited Tape Four.
It's been nearly three years since I've talked to you and a
lot of water has gone over the dam during that time. I think this
will be my best tape. I'll let you be the judge of that, but one
thing I know for sure: the story you are about to hear has not
been told before and it needs to be.
What you are going to hear will no doubt raise a few eyebrows
and perhaps shock a few people. It's a story that's been known to
only a few. We're going to talk about meetings that you were
never invited to, strategies that never appeared in the AAC
Journal or were never spoken of at David's ((Mayo))
lectures. These are the things I want to put into perspective for
you.
But, I'm getting a little ahead of myself.
Needless to say, we have all been through an ordeal together
leaving the church. The 'heyday' of the field and then the
reality of what we actually ended up with in the field, and
that's not much to speak of; a heap of ashes might be an apt
description. I don't think this fact comes to you as any great
surprise, all you have to do is look around and you can see for
yourself that this is true, but the purpose of this tape is not
to tell you what you already know. In the next hour, we are going
to look hard at what happened, what really happened, behind the
scenes in the field and I think it might answer some questions
for you.
As you know, I've been in and out of the thick of this for
some time. Being on the inside, I knew quite a bit that was going
on in the field that you were not privy to, but even with all the
first-hand data that I had, I was puzzled over why we were having
so much trouble with the lawsuit that the church filed against
myself, the AAC and a few others in the field. This was the suit
that dealt with the stolen NOTS materials. By the way, many
blamed this lawsuit as the reason why the AAC had to close down,
but I knew better, for I saw the field deteriorating long before
the suit was ever filed. But again, I am ahead of myself.
As to why I began this quest, I didn't understand why we were
losing in the courtroom. Particularly, a case in which I thought
we were innocent. Nothing added up anymore. The field had
virtually disappeared. So I started asking some questions, some
very hard questions and I found some answers.
To be honest, I really didn't know who to trust at this point.
So while doing this I separated myself out from just about
everybody. My search took me back and forth on the time track and
through a pile of paper that would overwhelm any attorney.
What I found was shocking, so shocking, in fact, that at
several points in time I decided that I simply didn't want to
look anymore. I didn't like what I was finding and I didn't like
confronting the fact that a few people I had really trusted had
let me down. As for this tape, it is largely a document-based
tape. I must have read a stack of documents six feet, or about 2
meters, high. Mostly court records and depositions available to
anyone. From this, a time track grew, which I added to my own
eyewitness knowledge of what had happened in the field.
It was not an easy job. There were many disheartening,
disappointing and angry moments while I was putting that time
track together. It may be that the truth will set you free, but
nobody said that gathering it wasn't painful, and at times even
embarrassing.
If you hear me turning pages while this tape is going on it's
because, frankly, I've written out a lot of the material in
advance.
Because so much of this has come from research and putting
together time lines and so forth, I felt it was necessary to have
accurate notes before I began. And while I'm at it, I also invite
you to do your search in order to verify what I'm about to tell
you. As a matter of fact, I implore you to examine this for
yourself and base your conclusions on first-hand data, instead of
taking someone else's word for it.
Probably the best way to start is with some current facts and
then we can work from there. It is a fact that the AAC is gone ((The
AAC is alive and well again in the Dominican Republic));
Stockton is gone; Kenda Craig is gone; the Clear Center is
perhaps 10% of it's former self, many others are also gone.
As to those who remain, good old standard tech is just a
distant memory. You probably have seen some of the garbage passed
off as tech, "This is IT! THE thing to crack your case, a
ouija board."
Give me a break.
And a far cry from what we were talking about back in 1983, I
might add.
And if standard tech is what you are looking for, there is no
place in the field to find it. That, too, is an indisputable
fact. And another fact that cannot be ignored is that the US
Federal courts have not been kind in their treatment of the AAC
and some other field centers. All PR aside, I worked on the AAC
legal case and am also familiar with other cases with other
centers, so I know how things are really going and, overall, they
are not going well.
That brings us to where I started my investigation. You see,
the church's lawsuit reduced to it's simplest language, claimed
that the NOTS material that was stolen in Denmark was transferred
to David Mayo and the AAC in violation of several statutes. This,
of course, is an oversimplification of the suit, but it will
suffice for our purposes.
When the church first filed it's lawsuit over the theft of the
NOTS material, I distinctly remember getting together with David
Mayo and a few other associates up at the AAC and we discussed
the case at length. We talked and talked and the more we talked
the more sure I became that we had a strong defense to this case.
I was assured by David that he had nothing to do with theft of
the upper level materials in Denmark and that these materials had
not been sent to his center, and I believed him.
But loss after loss in front of Judge Feltzer, the judge in
this case, made me quite confused. I kept asking myself why were
we losing, what had we done to pull this in? I couldn't quite get
my finger on it.
I remember several times questioning David on this point,
asking him at some length if he had anything to do with this
theft, or the receipt of the stolen materials. I didn't want to
waste my time defending the suit if he had actually been guilty
of this, and I was not about to waste my time raising money to
pay for a defense if, in fact, the AAC was guilty of a crime.
Assured repeatedly that David was innocent, we used this legal
case to rally the field to raise funds for our legal defense. The
battle cry became, "You could be next". To be
honest, we didn't know whether the "You could be
next" line was necessarily true or not, but it was an
acceptable line since we really needed money and David Mayo was
innocent, right?
Well, we'll see.
My objective was to question everything either side said. I
didn't know who to trust or believe. Now, nearly two years later,
I have a very disturbing tale to tell you. What I am about to
tell you is all contained in the public records that you can
find, just as I did. It's all there and I am bitter and angry
with what I have found. I am bitter because I was lied to and I
used my comm lines and skills to pass that lie along. That lie
was used to raise money. It was used to keep another lie alive.
And that really frosts me.
Let's review this whole scene and I'll show you how I came to
conclude that David did indeed come into possession of the stolen
NOTS pack. I came to this conclusion from publicly available
evidence including many documents from the files of the AAC and
the files of David Mayo himself. Some of the details you may know
about, some I am sure you do not.
Basically, what happened is this. On December the 9th 1983,
Robin Scott, along with two accomplices, stole three NOTS packs
and a Class VIII pack from the AO in Denmark; this is now a
well-known fact and is not disputed by any one. We in the field
actually regarded this as good news. We all hoped we would be
able to get the real NOTS data and, of course, within days of the
theft we knew who had stolen the materials.
Prior to, and during this time, David insisted that these
materials were unnecessary as he could reconstruct the NOTS pack
from memory, but it's interesting to note that he never released
anything until after the theft. The AA5 ((ACC OT V))
pack simply did not exist before the theft, even though David
often talked about how much he wished he had a pack finished.
Then, all of a sudden, in January 1984, not long after the theft,
the pack comes out.
Advance payments were coming into the AAC and by February
1984, AA5, or NOTS, was finally being delivered. This was broadly
promoted.
David had finished the pack, HIS reconstruction, time for
celebration.
The RTC, however, saw it differently, and in January of 1985,
they filed a suit against Robin Scott and his accomplices: Ron
Lowery, Morag Belmain and Steve Bisbee. And, again, against the
AAC, David Mayo, John Nelson, Harvey Haber, myself, my then wife
Vivian, concerning the theft and possession of these NOTS
materials. Now we're going to take a look at what I call the NOTS
connection, because this is where the story gets a little bit
more interesting.
To begin, let me give you some history and some idea of who
the players were at the start of this game. David Mayo, John
Nelson, Harvey Haber and Dede Reisdorf were all ex-CoS management
people who formed the AAC in Santa Barbara. Lowery, Bisbee, and
Belmain, also ex-Sea Org, formed the nucleus of a group they
hoped would one day be a fully fledged AAC in East Grinstead.
Robin and Adrian Scott, who had resigned from the Church in the
Fall of 1983, were also former Sea Org members who worked for the
FOLO UK, and at one point, Robin had even been Deputy Commanding
Officer there. Adrian, who was also in FOLO UK, I believe, was
the H.A.S. They would later form the AAC Kenda Craig.
But the real story begins months earlier. You know the old
Dianetic command, 'Is there an earlier beginning?' Yes, there is
an earlier beginning. Ron Lowery and Steve Bisbee, as early as
May, or perhaps June of 1983, had stolen Solo through OT3 from
AOSH UK, using an inside accomplice. This is a matter of court
record. Then, in July of 1983, Jeannie Hansen, a close friend of
Lowery and Bisbee, made a trip to see David Mayo. I have no
evidence that the stolen Solo through OT3 materials were given to
David, but it does explain a strange conversation that I had with
him. I offered him the similar materials from the Clear Center.
'Thanks,' he said, 'but we have all we need.'
That was curious to me because our very first conversations,
and from then on, many conversations, centered around the
unavailability and scarcity of materials, and that was a constant
problem. Now, all of a sudden, he seemed to have all of the
materials he needed. That seemed illogical to me but I accepted
it at face value. And I didn't know about the Lowery-Bisbee June
theft at that time. But we still did not have the NOTS pack.
During the Fall of 1983, both Ron Lowery and Robin Scott begin
a series of letters with David Mayo. Both indicate they want to
affiliate with the AAC in Santa Barbara and deliver services up
through Solo NOTS.
Scott indicated that he wanted to send a staff member to Santa
Barbara for training. On October 1, 1983, Robin Scott attempts a
theft. He approaches an AO UK staff member, asks him to steal
NOTS and other confidential materials, and in exchange he would
receive a 20,000 pounds per year job. The staff member tells
Robin to 'shove off' and writes up the attempt.
On October 6, 1983, Bob Ainsworth of Robin Scott's group in
Kenda Craig, writes to David Mayo and says he would like to
deliver NOTS. And he was 'figuring out how to get the materials.'
Make a note of that.
Later that Fall, Harvey Haber from the AAC in Santa Barbara
traveled to Spain for a convention of Independents, and then went
on to East Grinstead. During his stay there, Harvey had meetings
with Ron Lowery, Steve Bisbee and Morag Belmain, among others.
The seeds of the AAC/East Grinstead are sown. I can't imagine
that they didn't discuss the earlier theft; and perhaps the one
to come.
As late as November 17th, AAC regs are still replying to
requests for NOTS or AA5 training by saying the AAC does not
currently deliver that training and they cannot give a date
certain when it will be available. 'Soon', was all that was said.
Then the second theft. On December 9, 1983, Scott, Lowery and
Belmain travel to Copenhagen. They enter the AO in Denmark and
take three NOTS packs and one Class VIII course pack, as we said
before.
Scott takes one pack and goes back to Scotland. Lowery and
Belmain take others and return to East Grinstead. Immediately on
their return to East Grinstead, Lowery and Belmain join up with
Steve Bisbee and they go directly to Martin Rustin's office to
xerox copies of the stolen materials.
But here is the clincher, this is clincher number one, and one
part of the story you were never told. The same day of the theft,
the very day that the stolen NOTS materials were being xeroxed,
the AAC made two phone calls to Martin Rustin's office. They were
right in the phone records. I didn't even know about those phone
calls when I was working on the legal case.
And now clincher number two. On December the 20th, Harvey
Haber from the AAC in Santa Barbara picks up the phone and calls
Ron Lowery in East Grinstead and they talk for over a half-hour
overseas. This is no ordinary phone call and Harvey takes notes
on their conversation.
Those notes have been introduced into the court.
Into those notes he states that the AAC would get 'the
materials'.
Lowery, Bisbee and Belmain would not give copies of the
materials to anyone other than David Mayo and the AAC. In
exchange, they would get AAC affiliation. Just as a parenthetical
remark, do you see the ramifications of that? They also got two
for one price or 50% discount to train their staff at the AAC in
Santa Barbara.
Talk about a smoking gun. Why Harvey wrote all this down I'll
never know, but he did, and a copy of it is in the court files
for you to see for yourself: affiliation with known thieves. This
same note also mentions that John Nelson is planning a trip to
East Grinstead in early January of 1984 and he will work out the
fine points at that time.
David Mayo, apparently, was told of this deal soon after the
telephone call. Now you must remember that as of January 1st
1984, there was still no AA5 pack at the AAC, only the lectures
given by David to a select few.
In January, Nelson took off to East Grinstead and met with
Lowery and Bisbee who had the stolen NOTS pack. At that time the
affiliation was made official with Lowery, Besbee and Belmain as
the Board of Directors of the AAC East Grinstead. Nelson also
made a quick trip to Kenda Craig to talk to Robin Scott, the
deals were closed just has Harvey had laid them out back on
December the 20th. In addition, Kenda Craig agreed to pay over 5%
of its gross income to the AAC in Santa Barbara.
I might add at this point that it was certainly ethically
questionable to be in communication with these people ((Scott
et al.)).
To affiliate with these people as AACs, as it is a matter of
court record that these people were criminals, is ludicrous.
We're talking about simple outright theft now. Regardless of the
arguments, religious or philosophical, used to justify it, it was
purely a criminal act like someone entering your home and
stealing something from you.
But what about David Mayo getting the NOTS pack? David and I
had talked a few times about the chances of getting one, but he
kept saying to me that he wouldn't want to get involved with
anything illegal, so no, he didn't want a hot NOTS pack. I
believed him.
Clincher Number Three. All of a sudden, as if dropped from
heaven, the AA5 bulletins start coming out: bang-bang-bang-bang;
one after the other. In my deposition in this case, they had me
go through the complete AA5 pack and read the data in each issue.
Issue Number One, January, 1984; Issue Number Two, January, 1984;
Issue Number Three, January, 1984. I don't think I need to
continue with this, do I?
All of the bulletins of the AA5 pack all came out in one month
and all of them came out in January, 1984. I didn't catch it,
even as it stared me in the face. There I sat in the room with
the attorneys and the papers and everything. It just never
occurred to me at the time that David had written the entire AA5
pack in one month or less. The whole deal. That must have been
some month.
One then must ask this burning question . . . If David Mayo
could reconstruct NOTS from memory into AA5 in only a month, why
hadn't he done it in the month of August, 1983? Or how about the
months of September or October or November or December? People
were clamoring for the services. Why wait? We considered that
there was big money to be made in delivering those services. And
besides, memory fails with time.
On March 13, 1984, Robin Scott was arrested in Copenhagen. On
March 14, by the time the news had reached the AAC, calls were
made from the AAC to Ron Lowery, Steve Bisbee and Morag Belmain.
Nearly 45 minutes altogether in overseas phonecalls, all on that
day. Did you know that the AAC Journal for that period originally
featured a page on the new AAC Kenda Craig? No, you don't.
Because these, in fact, were never mailed. Instead, they were
destroyed and a new issue deleting all references to Robin Scott
in the AAC Kenda Craig was produced and distributed. Now that the
arrest had occurred, David needed to distance himself from Scott.
Court records show that all the terms of the agreement
negotiated by Nelson and Haber were carried out. It would then be
illogical to assume that the final and most important term of the
agreement had also not been carried out. And that was the
transfer of the stolen NOTS pack to the AAC. It would be
illogical for this not to have occurred.
The evidence strongly suggests that David did possess a copy
of the stolen NOTS pack. It was really quite tricky to piece all
of this together. But all I did was read and take careful notes
on the trial documents, the testimony in court, the depositions,
and the documents used as evidence and so on. And it's all right
there for anyone to see.
Now, you have to realize that I did not know all of this when
I was doing my tapes, and working on raising money for the legal
defense of the lawsuit. While some might not care that the
materials were stolen from the Church, it bothers me. I feel
betrayed when I look at how much money was spent defending a
lawsuit in which we were apparently guilty.
When I take a look at how much time was spent helping David,
who I feel was not open and honest with me about the facts of the
case, I feel very angry. My life and future was on the line.
Apparently, he just didn't care. I find it upsetting to realize
that I was taken in by all of this. And the PR line that I helped
forward, given to me by David Mayo, in the end turned out to be
the lie.
After the suit was filed, I launched into the legal arena.
From June '85 through August '85 I worked full time. I attended
all depositions, hearings, read all the motions and other legal
papers. It was an amazing stack of paperwork. David and I had
hours of discussions about this suit, throughout which he
maintained his complete innocence.
But the court hearings began in July, 1985. We were going to
show the Church of Scientology, I'll tell you that. We were going
to get in there and kick some butt, if you will. Unfortunately,
we ate most of our meals standing up. We lost motion after
motion, creating the impression that Judge Marianna Feltzer, the
judge in this case, was against us. So we looked into her. But an
investigation into her earlier cases showed a very low reversal
rate. That is, she was rarely found to be factually or legally
wrong by the higher courts. She had a reversal rate of around 4%,
the lowest of any judge in that particular circuit. This was
disquieting, to say the least.
And then we get to Clincher Number Four. Judge Feltzer
personally compared the AA5 materials and the NOTS materials and
she came back into court and this is what she said in November of
1985, now this is a quote...
"The court did not find the testimony of David Mayo
credible on the issue of how he and the Advanced Ability Center
came to have in their possession the documents in question in
this lawsuit. The court does not believe that anyone, even Mr.
Mayo, could have reproduced from memory, materials substantially
identical to those stolen in Denmark from the church. The
documents are too voluminous, too detailed and too nearly
identical in substance and wording to have been created by
Mr.Mayo without reference to the stolen documents".
The judge ordered all of the materials, AA5 or NOTS in the
possession of the defendants to be turned over to the court. So
that is the real story of the NOTS connection as opposed to what
you were told about it. It is, by no means, the entire WHY for
the field crumbling, we'll get to that later. But it is a typical
example of the kind of out-ethics that has historically been
present in splinters or squirrels or whatever else you want to
call them. And it shocked me into beginning an independent search
of what really had happened over the past five years in the field
as well as just the legal case.
After I realized I had been lied to by David about the NOTS
materials and then realizing that I had wasted all that time and
all that money, I felt devastated. But I plowed on. I began to
review the entire history of the field and my involvement with
it. I wanted to know why it all turned out as it did. What I
found could not be refuted, it's a story that's not been told. I
think you all know that things just do not happen by themselves.
People have to make them happen, and in the case of field
movement of 1983 and 1984, it was made to happen and I played a
large part in that movement.
You've all heard my tapes, well that's just one small part of
the picture; the part of the picture we told you about and wanted
you to believe contained in those tapes. I believed what I told
you in earlier tapes. I didn't know that I was being sold a bill
of goods, and took what I was told as truth. I never could
document all that black PR.
What I was fed and in what sequence, etc., was calculated to
get me to pass on the PR and lies.
For a moment, let's go back to the beginning. I resigned from
the church in April of 1983. That is a story in itself, but I
will not dwell on it in this tape. Suffice it to say, that upon a
good honest look, the seeds of my disaffection went back many
years to a couple of situations from earlier times that I was
involved in, which I never got myself handled on. Instead, I got
more and more strident in my complaints as time went on. And as I
have come to learn, many of the conditions I was harping upon to
justify my departure in a time period when some had been
attempting to stir up discontent, had been caused by a management
crew that had been kicked out for out-tech and out-admin in 1982.
The ousted former leaders complained loud and long about
management, the very conditions that they themselves had brought
about.
And we shall encounter some of this earlier management crew
very shortly in this tape.
There are many things that could be said about this time
period of early 1983. For instance, about the real motivations of
people who set up shop outside the church. A representative
example is two of the key people in the LA independent field.
They were known in the church for fluky tech and getting into
off-beat practices well before they left the church. I am
talking, of course, about Valerie Stansfield and Thea Greenburg.
And they proceeded to confirm my earlier opinion of them by
inventing rundowns, squirreling the tech and getting into other
practices.
Let's pick up the tale from the summer of 1983, realizing that
there was much that had preceded this time period, and this was
not by any means the actual start of the incident. There were, by
now, alarming rumors early on, like the IRS was going to take
over the Church of Scientology, or it was all going to go
bankrupt and I put some of this information in earlier tapes. But
I have to tell you that those were rumors and those things have
not come to pass.
But the field thrived on those rumors, that the church would
be going under any day and it made joining the field more
attractive if the CofS was going to disappear. The truth, as we
now can see it, was something quite different. In fact, it was
facts like IRS troubles that we'll omit from this tape. So that
was the situation at the time and here is how we capitalized on
it.
The Clear Center opened officially in the summer of 1983 and
the AAC which I helped set up soon followed. I remember the
beginning very well. The seeds were sown on a hot day in July of
1983, we all gathered in my apartment: David Mayo, John Nelson,
Harvey and Donna Haber, myself and my wife at the time, Vivian. A
meeting that I'll call the birth meeting of the AAC. This was
before I'd done my tapes, this was before the AAC journals and
the trips to Santa Barbara on weekends.
These were meetings where plans were devised and scrapped and
then reworked and finally, it was the place where certain
agreements were arrived at.
I must confess these initial meetings made a significant
impression on me. I was electrified. I had never been on the
Apollo. I have never worked at INT and the stories that I was
being told by the small handful hour after hour left me
speechless. Well, I don't think I have ever been actually
speechless, but let's say I was stunned. These were things that
I'd never heard before, things that you'd never heard before
either and I assumed that if they electrified me, they would
electrify you. And this I used to make my tapes appealing. Not to
say that I was calculated but, looking back on it that's how it
happened. And looking further back in this area I never really
asked for the documentation on all the claims that were being
made by David and the other members of the AAC. Which I relayed
to you quite faithfully in my tapes.
At the time, it never occurred to me that David Mayo would lie
to me. Besides, he had made the big jump, like myself, to leave
the church. His jump might have been bigger than mine. So you
might say we were comrades where a certain amount of mutual trust
was expected.
Now, some four years later, I know differently.
David Mayo, in early to mid 1983, was laying tile for a
living.
When we first met, he wanted to get ginned in on who was who
in the LA field and how I thought he might go about getting
something started. We discussed everything down to the general PR
lines that would be used.
But things don't just happen by themselves, people have to
plan them out and make them happen. To think that the field
movement started spontaneously is ludicrous. No, it was made to
happen. I know because I was there at the beginning and I worked
to help make it happen. I became a spokesman for the movement in
its infant stages, when it was really getting going. David Mayo
and I discussed strategy at length and how to get his story out
to the field.
What you are about to hear may shock you, but that is not my
intention, believe me. This may seem somewhat calculated but I'm
afraid in certain cases, it was. The strategy which was worked
into my tapes had the following guide lines:
1. The public that we were going to go after were
Scientologists primarily on lines at the church. This included
any fence-sitters or people who had festering ARC breaks with the
church. We were mainly interested in those who already knew
Scientology worked and were ripe for the plucking. We knew that
unless we promised standard tech we couldn't get many people to
really leave the church. Mind you, I'm not saying standard tech
was ever delivered, I'm only saying we HAD to promise it. We knew
that we could only pull in the church public if we promised good
standard tech.
3. This is where David Mayo came in. We pushed the line that
Mayo was the highest-trained terminal in the field and that he
had data on the upper levels that no one in the church had,
thereby giving the field its own attraction. A classic hidden
data line. It tuned in perfectly with the inside or hidden
stories about the ship and INT, and so on.
But the more data I got in this research, the more I found
Mayo's assertions to be false. But at the time I ate it up hook,
line and sinker and sold it like gospel truth. And it was very
convincing.
And what about David's knowledge of the secret unreleased,
upper, upper OT levels? Well, I remember the time in 1984 when
Mayo released his version of OT VIII, and what a flop! It was
given to only a couple of PCs, and you never saw two more
distressed PCs in your life. And that was the last we heard of
David bringing out new upper levels.
That's a little story you maybe never have heard about.
4. Another part of the strategy was to give you the impression
that people were leaving the church in droves. It's funny how
people don't like to take the plunge all by themselves. But if
you can assure them that others just like them have taken the
leap, they feel more reassured. My tapes were to reassure you
that it was okay to leave the church.
I'm sorry if this is shocking. It's not easy for me to be
saying all of this. But the truth is the truth, and for some
reason, everytime I look more and more at this scene, I see more
and more exactly what did happen. It's a painful process, but try
to stay with me here.
Anyway, after we worked out the strategy, we decided to
implement it. In August of 1983, the Mayos, the Habers and John
Nelson, along with my help, established the AAC in Santa Barbara.
Per the strategy, the AAC proclaimed itself to be the best in the
field, run by former high execs of the SO. We all pushed power to
the AAC. We sent money, mailing lists; we took services. Yet,
even when things appeared to be going well, rivalry between field
groups for public and money was growing. And with it, bad blood
in our 'high ARC' environment.
This is a little story that you may not have known about. Let
me fill you in on what it was really like behind the scenes in
the field.
At an early meeting of center owners, David Mayo was pushing
for total control over the field. This fell on deaf ears. The
last thing that anybody wanted was someone to be 'in control'. At
that time, David claimed he wanted total control out of a desire
to keep the tech standard. But, in time, it was clear that his
desire for control had less to do with the tech and more to do
with his being the sole deliverer of the upper levels in the
field, a very lucrative position.
I helped him set up the AAC and I owned the Clear Center, so I
was very much aware of what was going on and knew all about the
1.1 battles over who was top dog, and who got the most money,
etc. We preached peace and love, but in the end, it was the
almighty dollar that ruled.
And that brings us to what we call the Standard Tech, and its
price in the field. In my tapes, I spoke to you about the
marketplace and how it would create a new field that would be
able to deliver services at a price the people could afford.
Maybe they could afford the price, but don't kid yourself, they
didn't get Standard Tech. I could tell you stories that would
make your hair stand on end. About C/Ss that were never trained
to be C/Ss; about Auditors that were auditing over their heads,
and about C/Ss who never even looked at the folders. I could even
tell you some other things that should never have occurred to
anyone. And I'm not just talking about the AAC, either. This, if
anything, is the story of the FIELD.
You must remember that I was trained up to Class VIII. I, at
least, knew the rudiments or basics needed for Standard Tech. And
even in my center, which I, at one time, regarded highly, one
didn't really get Standard Tech. That's just the long and the
short of it.
When the court injunction came down on the AAC and the Clear
Center, everyone blamed the closing of the AAC on that decision.
Well, that is not true, it was a PR line. I had seen the signs of
decay earlier and had even warned David and others at the AAC
about what I saw. But no significant actions were taken to
correct the situation.
Let's face it, by early 1985, the field was sliding down.
I, myself, even before the court decision came down, decided
that I wanted out of this completely. I was tired of the price
wars, the back-biting and the attempts to deliver anything and
call it Standard Tech for any price. And I needed time for my
research.
If there was ever a sincere attempt to establish Standard Tech
in the field, then why is our trusted leader David Mayo off doing
something called Metapsychology, whatever that is.
I guess I shouldn't be so critical, I may not have been the
maker of the porridge, but I certainly dished it out. And by
that, I mean my earlier tapes. They were certainly a hit. Much of
what I said in these tapes came from a select number of people,
and now, looking at the facts, it is clear that some of what I
covered on the tapes was either exaggerated or just false. But
how did this happen?
Well, a lot of the information came from the founding members
of AAC, with whom I met in my apartment in 1983. David Mayo was
the Senior C/S International from 1978 through 1982, John Nelson
was the CO CMO Int, that is one of the highest administrative
officials in the church, from 1981 through 1982. DeDe Reisdorf
had also been the CO CMO Int and she held that post before John
Nelson from 1979 through 1981. And, boy, did they have lots to
say about management when we first met. And this was the hot
stuff, the inside story.
Unfortunately, as I now review these tapes and the data they
gave me, it was just a collection of self-serving stories that
could never be verified. Here they were, the 'leaders of the
church', the supposed backbone of tech and management, sitting
right in my apartment. But as the years rolled by, and I saw the
way they ran the AAC, they fought amongst themselves mostly over
money. So much for lofty purposes. It is possible that these are
the very people we were mad at in management and it sure looks
like it. But I know one thing for sure, I would not want to
inherit the mess they left behind at the AAC in Santa Barbara.
I can't help but wonder what kind of a mess they left behind
at the church after they left.
Perhaps it's time we should call a spade a spade. Let's face
it, you and I put our trust in them and they are now all gone.
And no matter what you think about the church, one fact is clear:
it is still there, and from what I can see, appears to be
growing. I haven't been in the church in years, since 1983. But I
drove by just recently and saw all the students out there at the
old roach coach behind ASHO and all the students on the streets
appeared happy and productive and bouncing around. And you can't
help but see the books in the public stores and Dianetics on the
bestseller list. That doesn't happen by accident, either. I've
never seen that happen in the field.
Please forgive me for being bitter with this, but we didn't
end up with much. For that matter, what did we end up with? We
ended up with no bridge. No high ARC environment or field really.
We ended up with many, many people totally inactive or off into
other practices. We ended up with David Mayo and company closing
the AAC, which severely damaged much of what remained of the
field in one fell swoop, and guess what? We all paid for it,
cash, right from our pockets.
The moment the cash started to dwindle at the AAC, it closed
up.
It makes one wonder about the secret bank account in
Lichtenstein, that's hard for me to say, Lichtenstein, that David
Mayo went to right after the AAC closed up. My attorney told me
about it. We don't know how much he took out of the country, but
it doesn't make sense to fly to Europe to make a $500.00 deposit.
I've digressed somewhat from my story but this is something that
I just didn't want to let go by.
So, let's take a closer look at my earlier tapes, starting
with tape number one, which came out in the summer of 1983. First
off, in Tape One I gave the impression that the church was about
to go under, that the IRS was about to take over and that the
church was being run by a bunch of young inexperienced
management, and that the only way to save the church was to leave
it and 'correct it from the field '; meanwhile, putting your
money in one of the field centers. Well, time is a terrible
teacher. And fact is, I was wrong.
That tape contained an allegation that LRH was to get 85
million dollars from the Church of Scientology. This created an
enormous sensation, but the source of this figure was Time
Magazine and only Time Magazine. There is not now, nor was there
ever, even one shred of evidence that this has ever happened.
My conclusion on that tape about the tax ramifications of all
that was purely my attempt to explain the transaction. Which
would have been a very clever explanation had any of the events
of the transaction ever taken place.
Then the story also included a segment that there was
something improper about the transfer of the trademarks to the
RTC. I dubbed that in to solve that imagined tax problem. At
least that is how I strung the story together. The trouble is,
this was just a combination of hearsay and my imagination.
Stories like these tried to paint a picture of financial
impropriety. But try as I might during this recent investigation,
I could find no evidence of financial impropriety. Even LRH's
will, which I had the opportunity to read, and according to all
accounts I could find, provided for his family and everything
else went to the church.
Sorry, clean as a whistle.
Now that I have learned that things are different than I
originally told you, I do feel a responsibility to at least tell
you the truth, so that you can make up your own mind on things. I
certainly owe you that much.
But back to the tapes. Remember the story in Tape One about
David Miscavige sort of bumping off members of the All Clear
Committee? This turns out to be completely untrue. What was
really going on was that DeDe Reisdorf, who told me this story,
was bitter about being put off the All Clear Committee. And it
was just her story, and in fact, she was removed from All Clear
for incompetence. The rest was just so much bull.
David Mayo also told me tales about his comm line, and yours,
being deliberately cut to LRH. Same story here: a real case of
sour grapes once more. Plus a little bit of reinforcement to the
hidden data line.
Then there was all that PR about Mayo's 'imprisonment and
torture'.
Well, first, Happy Valley has no fence around it. He could
have simply walked away any time he wanted. And I have seen some
evidence about his performance on post in the church that is not
inconsistent with what we have seen in the AAC. And, let's be
honest with ourselves, the AAC has never been a hallmark of
organizational competence. As for Mayo's other stories, they just
got harder and harder to believe. I mean, not even Judge Feltzer
in the RTC case found David Mayo to be a 'credible witness'.
As you know from listening to my tapes, I had no great love
for Don Larsen. You remember Don Larsen, the guy who, as a member
of the Finance Police, spent some time terrorizing the LA area?
Well, it turns out that when Larsen was found out, he was put in
the RPF and then blew.
Where is he now? He is all over the press, yelling about how
rotten the church is and seeking to blame what he did on the
church. That does sound familiar, doesn't it?
After a while, you begin to ask yourself what the hell is
going on? There is a limit to how much one can believe or simply
absorb. In the beginning, I would believe just about any story
that came my way. I wanted to believe them. After all, they made
me right and the church wrong. Nice out-rudiment. It worked that
way with a lot of people, and let's face it, much of what you
believed about what was going on in the church was based
initially, at least, on my tapes. And, on that information, you
made decisions. The lines that seemed to stick the most in the
first tape, of course, were the finance stories. People are
always very concerned about the money.
But since Tape One, I have learned that the finance stories
David Mayo and his crew told me had its basis in THEIR own
actions and plans.
For example, did you know that David and Julie Mayo took
between 10% and 15% of the gross income of the AAC? That, plus
the salaries of the other principle executives, especially Nelson
and Haber, brought the total in pay to executives to between 30%
and 40% of the gross income, nearly half. And the salaries were
going up and up.
And what about all my stories and earlier tapes about church
money being couriered around the world? Well, ok, but what about
David Mayo's trip to Lichtenstein, a safe banking country in
Europe? By the way, a safe banking country, by that I mean it's a
country that has laws like Switzerland, where the amounts of
money and the names of owners of accounts are not reported to the
United States. As I said earlier, one does not make an expensive
trip like that just to deposit $500 in a bank account.
On my second tape, which I did in 1984, I said that LRH was an
unindicted co-conspirator in the DC 9 case. And that he was also
indicted by a grand jury in Tampa, Florida. Both of those stories
turned out to be false. And the truth is right there in the
documents.
I'm not sure where I originally got this false data, but I
think it might have come from a Michael Flynn taped speech. And
that is all I need to say about that..
I also spent a good deal of time in my tapes picking apart
various Commodore's Messengers. I painted them as evil and
sinister. The fact of the matter is, that I have never even laid
eyes on most of those people and know little or nothing
first-hand about any of them. All I know is that the field is now
gone and the church marches on.
David Mayo, John Nelson and company wove me a story of how the
church was of late involved in illegal and improper acts, that I
passed on to you. That turned out to be as false as the rest of
what I was told. And remember, it was Robin Scott who went to
jail. These stories they told me about the Apollo, you know,
trouble and then run and trouble and run, and trouble and run.
Well, that's not really the history of the ship. It turns out to
be the history of David Mayo and that crew.
By the time Tape Three came out, which was in the summer of
1984, the handwriting was really already on the wall regarding
the field.
This is nearly six months before the church even filed suit.
The church launched a number of special clean-up missions that
were recovering many, and times were getting tough. Tape Three
was to whip up the field one last time. There was hope that this
would generate additional income, and create a common enemy: the
church and LRH. Morale needed a boost and I lent a hand. I
claimed that there was thousands of splinters. That was just
puffing us up. Actual numbers were well below this.
As to the story of LRH's assignment of the trademarks to the
RTC, do you remember that document that was notarized by David
Miscavige and all that? Well, I said that that document appeared
to be a forgery, which would have made the RTC a fraud and thrown
all of church management into doubt. Well, it's not a forgery
and, since that time, it has been through the courts, the federal
courts, in fact, in New York state, and the agreement was
pronounced valid.
I also talked about LRH's military career and said virtually
every claim that he ever made was untrue. Obviously, if LRH was
discredited the church would also be discredited. Ok, let's sort
that out. I have since found much more documentation and, I was
wrong. LRH was severely disabled and legally blind at the end of
the war. He was highly decorated. He did see combat, and so on.
It was the Armstrong claims that I based all that on. And I've
since seen clear documentary evidence that those claims were
false. LRH's military records, however, are true.
I also indicated, on information sent to me by Robin Scott,
that the July, 1984 court decision allowed NOTS packs to be
freely copied and distributed. I have since read the actual
decision and the opposite of that is true. So copies are, in
fact, illegal; yet another lie.
You must now realize that for a manager for one of these field
groups (that's what we like to refer to them as, instead of
squirrel groups) times were tough going in 1984. The income was
going down, the tech was getting worse and worse. I knew when I
was doing my last tape that it was important that I stress that
the church was doing poorly and was about to falter. I feel kind
of silly now as I talk to you, all you have to do is turn on the
TV or drive by the complex, as I explained earlier to see that
church is still alive and growing. I even checked the church
claims that Dianetics was back on the bestseller list. Well, that
turned out to be true, also. Dianetics was on the bestseller list
for the New York Times for at least 29 weeks. In Publishers'
Weekly, which by the way is probably the most respected
publication in the publishing industry, it was on the bestseller
list for 30 weeks. The LA Times for 30 weeks, B. Dalton
Bookstore's bestseller lists for 35 weeks and Waldenbook's
bestseller list for 35 weeks.
And since the flow of church public to the field has, for all
practical purposes, stopped, it does not take a screaming genius
to figure out that public are now united with the church, and are
staying on-lines.
So, what conclusions can we draw from this story, now that we
have laid it out? Well, to begin with, the field as a movement is
gone. It was doomed from the beginning and it went the way of all
such movements.
It was made up of malcontents, prima-donnas, squirrels and
know-bests.
Nothing will ever be standard in that crowd. Let me tell you
something, the field has failed and can never succeed, ever.
Because it's built on a lie and an overt. Not because I say so,
but because that is a fact.
The 'independent field' circa 1982 thru present time, has,
whether you know it or not, several historical precedents. For
example, Jack Horner; or Bernie Green; or Anachronistics; or The
Process from England in the middle 1960's.
What do these earlier attempts have in common with the current
scene and with eachother? Well, one, they were led by people who
had left the church or were thrown out, whining about how bad it
all was. Two, having once left the church, they tried to set up
on the outside and live off the church by pulling people
off-lines. And three, they all failed due to out-ethics and
out-tech.
If those stories sound familiar, they should. Because that
history was sadly repeated in 1982, '83, and '84. All that was
supposed to be different this time, but it really wasn't. So, if
you are still looking in the field for standard tech, save
yourself some time. It is not there, and it never really was.
If we're going to speak of Standard Tech by its very
definition, then all the groups in the field were squirrel groups
and nothing more than just that. Now I can say that, since I am
no longer involved either with the church or with the field and I
have no vested interest either way. There simply are no cheap
rides to get anything in this world and I am afraid that includes
Standard Tech.
As for the field today, some have gone off into mixing
practices with body balancing and therapeutic massage and
channeling and ouija boards and hypnotism and God knows what
else. This is not the road to real personal freedom that I was
taught, that I taught to others and understood and considered to
be good Standard Tech. The game simply became making money.
The AAC, from as early as 1983, was associated with and later
formed affiliations with known criminals. Squirrel or splinters
have always been started by people with axes to grind. They
pretended to deliver the tech, grabbing what money they could
before out-tech and out-ethics ruined their results and
ultimately forced them out of business.
David and John Nelson and DeDe Reisdorf, the management we
were so upset with, now leave us with this mess. The thought of
earlier church issues comes to mind that say that Mayo and Nelson
and Reisdorf left a mess behind them in the Church of
Scientology. My guess? It looks to me like we are two for two.
Let's wrap the picture up here. David Mayo, John Nelson and
DeDe Reisdorf planted the seeds of dissension within the church
which ultimately led to the defections in '83 and '84. They
apparently, in no small measure, were who we were mad at in
management.
Then, here's David Mayo, come to 'lead us all to higher
ground'.
There would be Standard Tech, a complete bridge, a high ARC
environment, they knew best, and we happily followed. None of us,
including me, knew the inside story. So what did we end up with?
We ended up with no bridge, no high ARC environment or no field
really. We ended up with many many people totally inactive or off
into other practices. We ended up with David Mayo and company
closing the AAC.
And another nagging question: Why were these top-notch
experts, superduper people unable to keep the AAC afloat? We
believed in them; flowed power and money to them but we were sold
down the river, you and I.
Once there was trouble, they took off. Just consider this for
a moment and you will see it. David and crew made the field
'legitimate', they lent credence to the idea that this was
splintering and not the dreaded word squirreling. This is just
too hard to overlook, we were had. I am sorry to put it in those
terms but here we are. No Standard Tech, no bridge, no future. If
you don't believe me, go up to Santa Barbara and see if you can
find the AAC, that's the product.
If their performance inside the church was anything like it
was in the field, that answers the question as to why they were
in the field in the first place. But this shouldn't have been any
surprise. LRH had warned from the early 1950's about squirreling,
what caused it and what the inevitable results were and he said
it again in RJ 38.
The whole story above is virtually right there about hard
times in the church being solved by throwing out those who were
corrupting the tech and shattering the lines in the church. And
then these deposed staff going outside and blaming the new
management for the conditions they created while still trying to
profit from the church on the outside.
This is not a new story. This has happened before. But the
church seems to have improved since these guys left. The
defection rate, or rather the lack of defections, proves this.
Let me say a few words about the current lawsuit and
litigation with the Church of Scientology in general. With over
two years first-hand experience litigating with them, I speak to
you with considerable experience. Litigation, that is the filing
of lawsuits, is especially tough with Church of Scientology.
First, they have a lot of experience and they have the resources
to hire excellent attorneys. Second, they fight hard and
effectively. And thirdly, in the RTC case against myself and
David Mayo and others, I don't predict that we will do well.
I think we have adequately covered the reasons why. Our talk
about litigation would be remiss if I didn't at least mention the
fair class-action suit. My advice to you is, at this point, is do
not get involved. Aside from the time and money you will spend,
not to mention the mental anguish and animosity, with my view
today, not only are the chances of success poor, but the only
people who will ever see any real money out of this lawsuit ten
years down the line will be the lawyers.
That's my opinion, but after more than two years in the
trenches and study of fifteen years of church litigation, I speak
with some first-hand knowledge.
Freedom, integrity and truth are never accomplished by
squirreling or theft or litigation. So while I realize that this
may be shocking to many of you, I have started settlement
negotiations with the church in this case. I cannot see defending
against a suit in which the facts bear out that we WERE in
possession of the stolen documents.
David, I fear, is guilty and I'm tired of fronting for him. He
had learned on the skinny lines that I was settling with the CofS
and he was worried about it. First time I've heard from him since
before the AAC closed. He was concerned that I might be settling
out of fear, that I would no longer be able to financially manage
further legal costs.
He went to great lengths to assure me that my legal expenses
would be, in fact, covered. This he repeated over and over, all
he could talk to me about was dollars. But my concern was not
dollars, my concern was my own honesty and integrity and,
unfortunately, dollars do not make an adequate substitute. Of
course, I would be expected to help raise more money for the
Friends of the First Amendment, which is David's legal defense
fund. Oh sure, I thought, here we go again, get out there Jon,
and influence the field. Sorry David, no thanks.
Thus far, I have been treated by the church with kindness,
respect and courtesy, in spite of my horrendous acts against them
in the past, and in spite of my indication of unwillingness to
rejoin the church at this time. I have not, and will not, be paid
even 'one thin dime', to quote Herber Jentzch, to settle with the
church. It is painful to realize that you have lost your
integrity. A great deal of this is resolved in getting honest and
straight with the church. This doesn't mean that I am going back
on the bridge, but it does mean that my hands are cleaner and my
life is happier as I go through this process.
My happiest time was the joy of being on the Briefing Course
in '74 and later the Class VIII course in '78, getting and
delivering good quality tech, keeping my agreements and so on. I
just felt great.
Since my decision to leave the church, it's never been quite
the same. Oh, this isn't to say that I've never had any happy
moments, but underlying that, gnawing at me, was the truth that I
could not deny, that I was in possession of materials that I had
illegally. Maybe it wasn't illegal in the eyes of the law but it
was from my own sense of what was morally right. I never
considered myself to be an SP and most people don't think of me
as that, but I was behaving right off the HCOBs on suppressive
persons, passing on rumors as fact, passing on only bad news
about the church, you name it.
I was in a moral dilemma and if you find yourself feeling
dispersed or sad or confused, something is nibbling at you. And I
will tell you what that very well may be: You are not being
honest and straight with that group you've made agreements with.
I'm not saying rejoin the church, that is for you to decide.
What I am saying is that your integrity is more important than
hanging onto stolen materials. We all promised to respect the
confidentiality of those materials and we have broken those
agreements.
And if you say, well, they didn't keep their agreements with
me, I'm sorry but that's just a lot of noise, it's your own
reactivity at work.
Besides, that makes no difference, your basic honesty and
rightness has been compromised, as was mine. But you can fix it.
Blaming the Church of Scientology for all my troubles didn't
help and, believe me, I could maunder on and on for hours about
how the church did this and the church did that, goodness what a
lot of charge.
And you know what, after all of those marathon bitch sessions,
and I'll bet there isn't anybody that's been in more of them than
I have, I never felt one bit better. I am a declared SP and, hard
as it is to say, that declare is not unjust.
So here I stand before you, naked, an SP and a squirrel. For
those of you who now see me as a traitor, I'm sorry, it's my
choice.
I've done the research, I've done the analysis of the facts
and these are the conclusions that I've reached. For those of you
who have been intrigued or now have questions, chase down your
answers with the vigor you'd use to search for a lost child. Call
somebody, play this tape for them. Call the Org you left and find
a way to resolve your differences.
There's been far too much fighting and animosity already.
I offer you one additional idea: If you have stolen materials
in your possession, turn them into the church, and at the same
time get your name off the litigation list. And if you are still
squirreling, stop.
With my deepest affection, I close this tape with these
thoughts. I hope that the truth is more important to you than the
fight or 'being right'.
To all of my friends and well-wishers over the years, I thank
you enormously for your affection and support. It was important
for me to settle this matter with the church and with you at this
time, in order for me to simply maintain my own integrity. If you
have something to settle, settle it. I'm feeling better day by
day and you might, too.
Jon Zegel